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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:46 pm

A great day for our river, at last we know when it will stop being polluted.

A day of reflection as well because Richard was passionate about this, I hope he is looking down and smiling. RIP
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:19 am

water bills to increase by 80 quid a year for how long i wonder, mayhaps they'll forget they put the price up, and water rates will remain inflated forever, a bit like youve still got to pat 6 quid or some such to go to wales.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:00 pm

I think its a scaled increase so not £80 straight away, if that is whats agreed. OFWAT decide how much the water companies can charge and Thames is one of the lowest anyway.

If it ends up as 21p a day to stop this happening, then worth it 100%...

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:18 pm

LBHF grumbling, as ever.
http://www.utilityweek.co.uk/news/thames-tideway-tunnel-%E2%80%98will-cause-years-of-misery%E2%80%99-says-local-council/1051162#.VBV4vWO4Yv4

Thames Tideway Tunnel ‘will cause years of misery’, says local council

12/09/2014
The construction of the Thames Tideway Tunnel “will cause years of misery” to residents living close to one of the construction sites, according to Hammersmith and Fulham council.

The super sewer was awarded a Development Consent Order (DCO) by the government on Friday morning, despite opposition from the local authority, which claimed it’s construction would “unnecessarily blight the lives of tens of thousands of people”.

The council wanted Thames Water to use a greenfield site on the opposite bank of the Thames, in Barn Elms, for the construction site.

Thames Water originally planned using the site in Barn Elms, near the Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust nature reserve at Barnes for its tunnelling work to take place but change this because consultation responses urged it to “avoid greenfield sites, where possible, and use the river more for transporting materials”.

Councillor Stephen Cowan, the leader of Hammersmith and Fulham council, said: “This is a disgraceful decision by the Government which effectively says that a piece of park land is more important than a community where thousands of people live.

“The park would have been restored after construction was completed, but using Carnwath Road will cause human misery to thousands of people for years to come.”

In their letter of explanation, the communities and environment secretaries, Eric Pickles and Liz Truss, said that there was a "good case" for granting the development order which is ‘not outweighed’ by the adverse impacts.

Truss added: “In the 21st century, London should not have a river that is polluted by sewage every time there is heavy rainfall.

“The Thames Tunnel is considered to be the best solution to address London’s outdated sewerage infrastructure.”

The decision supports the recommendation made by the Planning Inspectorate on 12 June 2014, following the examination of the application by a five member panel.

The tunnel will take seven years to build once construction starts in 2016, and there will be 24 construction sites across London.

The super sewer aims to prevent the discharge from London’s combined sewerage system, caused by exceptionally wet weather overwhelming the drains, being discharged into the Thames.

Andy Mitchell, chief executive of Thames Tideway Tunnel, said: “This is a huge project but it’s a huge problem, and we can now get on with tackling it.

“It’s no easy task, but we’re confident that we can deliver this project and still achieve our aim of minimising the impact on our customer bills.”

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:33 pm

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:16 am

From: http://waterbriefing.org/home/company-news/item/10095-thames-water-rejects-claim-that-tideway-tunnel-is-unnecessary



Thames Water has rejected the suggestion in an article published in The Guardian last week that questioned whether the Tideway Tunnel is unnecessary.

In a letter to the newspaper on Tuesday, Andy Mitchell, CEO of the Thames Tideway Tunnel described the suggestion that the Tunnel is not needed as “ deeply misguided.”

Mr. Mitchell said:

“The fundamental problem is that London’s Victorian sewerage system, while still in very good condition, now lacks the capacity to meet the needs of an ever-growing population. Last year 55m tonnes of sewage was discharged into the tidal river Thames. “A few minor works” could not solve that.”

“The reality is that the capital needs both the tunnel and sustainable drainage systems. It is not an either/or choice, as other world cities such as Washington DC are already demonstrating. “

He concluded by saying that the £70-80 a year average increase in Thames Water’s wastewater charge to cover the costs of the Tunnel is a worst-case scenario, adding:

“ We are confident we can deliver the project well within the £4.2bn budget.“

"Investors - losing interest?"

A report today by Inspiratia, a specialist consultancy which provides real-time data, forward-looking analysis, and market news for clients in the global infrastructure and renewables sectors, is suggesting that investors are losing interest in the Tunnel. Inspiratia’s Market Insight section today states:

“Thames Tideway Tunnel was heralded as the big greenfield opportunity in the UK market when the tender for the £2.8 billion (€3.53bn $4.4bn) infrastructure provider role to the project finally launched in June. However, investor interest was markedly lower than expected when indicative bids were lodged last month, causing some to doubt the viability of the development in its current form.”

Around £1.4bn of the Thames Tideway Tunnel’s construction cost will be financed by Thames Water and £2.8bn by the IP. Thames Water’s contribution will fund development costs, enabling works and interface works. To date, Thames Water has funded around £641m in development costs, including £323m on land acquisition.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:21 pm

email just now received from Martin Salter, this should mean the final hurdle is out of the way:

A nice piece of news to end the week on has just come in. The wise and far seeing judge has rejected all four judicial reviews launched by objectors to the much needed Thames Tideway Tunnel project.

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:31 am

I heard about the objections at the back of the week and had a nasty feeling it could all come unglued. This is good news lets see those shovels off the van and in the ground. Ed that Lea tunnel trip sounds interesting, hope there's a report of it later.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:24 pm

Is very good news, the p&ssed away a lot of money chasing this, wasted money on what was always a lost cause.

As you say Patrick, shovels off the van and start digging
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:11 pm

THAMES TUNNEL NOW MEDIA RELEASE – for immediate release


Environment groups celebrate judges’ ruling to allow Thames Tideway Tunnel to proceed


Environment groups in London are this week celebrating a High Court ruling to reject four judicial reviews by opponents of the Thames Tideway Tunnel. The decision clears the way for the project, which secured planning consent last October, to proceed.

Mr Justice Ouseley presided over the two-day hearing last week and refused applications from Southwark Council and the Thames Blue-Green Plan (Graham Stevens) for being out of time. The judge decided that the court had no jurisdiction to hear cases that had not been submitted in time and therefore their arguments would not be heard.

ThamesBank, now known as the Thames Blue-Green Partnership, which is supported by Lady Dido Berkeley, had its application refused on the basis that it was 'irrelevant' and relied on the suggested unlawful failure of the Examining Authority to hear evidence of alternative solutions during the planning process. The judge concluded that, given the clear direction contained in the National Wastewater policy statement, the Examining Authority was correct to conclude the submissions would be irrelevant and he therefore refused permission to launch a judicial review.

Finally, an individual, David Percival, made his own case for alternative solutions, particularly questioning the carbon obligations of the project, but he was told by the judge his case lacked a point of law and was therefore also refused.

Thames Tideway Tunnels have made no formal statement on the High Court ruling other than to state “We are pleased with the clarity provided by the court’s decisions.”

However, the environmental, recreational and amenity groups who make up the Thames Tunnel Now coalition welcomed the High Court decision to reject the judicial reviews which threatened to block or delay the project to clean up the tidal river in London.

Debbie Leach, Chief Executive of the Waterways charity Thames 21 and chair of Thames Tunnel Now said: This is great news for everyone – not only do we all depend on the water in our rivers and need to protect it whenever we can – this project means that we can look forward to a River Thames we can be truly proud of, that we can use and enjoy safely and with confidence, and where wildlife can thrive.”

"Carlo Laurenzi, Chief Executive of London Wildlife Trust added: “The High Court has made the right decision for the River Thames and Londoners. We need a sewage system fit for the 21st century, a system that no longer fouls the Thames, damaging the river’s fragile ecosystem and threatening the health of all who use it.”


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Thames Tideway Tunnel

The Thames Tideway Tunnel project has been designed to run 25km along the River Thames between Acton and Abbey Mills and intercept 34 combined sewer overflows.
It will divert surface water and sewage discharge to a wastewater treatment facility rather than allowing it to discharge directly into the river.
A failure to tackle the sewage overflow into Thames after periods of heavy or intense rainfall would leave UK facing EU fines of up to £100 million a year.
To help fund the construction of the super sewer, Thames Water has said that consumer water bills would increase by about £80 a year.


Thames Tunnel Now

In October 2011 a group of major environmental charities and amenity groups representing over 5 million people came together in a powerful coalition to support plans to construct the Thames Tideway Tunnel as the necessary and final part of infrastructure improvements needed to end the scandal of 39 million tonnes of untreated sewage entering the tidal river every year. Thames Tunnel Now partners include; RSPB, Angling Trust, Salmon & Trout Association, WWF, Thames21, The River Thames Society, Thames Anglers Conservancy, London Sustainability Exchange, Canoe England, Marine Conservation Society, Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust, Rowers Against Thames Sewage and the London Wildlife Trust.
More info at   http://www.thamestunnelnow.org/

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:01 am

Just got up to date on this, good stuff cheers
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:09 pm

Super sewer judicial review rejected after deadline missed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-30931950

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:14 pm

Thing is Boris wants it, the government doesn't want massive fines for missing the Waste Water Directive, and the opposition have always been poorly organised even though well funded.

I say let's crack on and get it done.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:22 pm

Another thing, about the "£80 per year extra" on our water bills, which Aylard admitted during our recent Lee tunnel visit:
Water bills are in 2 parts, water supply, and sewerage.
The sewerage part is being allowed to go up to pay for the tunnel.
But OFWAT are making Thames Water cut the water supply part by a similar percentage.
It's entirely likely that overall water bills may not change much at all.

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:57 am

Rather bizarre letter in this weekend's local paper, the tunnel is a done deal already.

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sun Apr 12, 2015 12:31 pm

Ed Randall wrote:
Rather bizarre letter in this weekend's local paper, the tunnel is a done deal already.

Truly bizarre and pointless, its done, lets get those shovels in the ground
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:15 am

2nd July 2015

THAMES TUNNEL NOW MEDIA RELEASE – for immediate release


London Environment and River Groups Welcome Legal Go Ahead for the Thames Tideway Tunnel


Environmental groups campaigning for the early construction of the Thames Tideway Tunnel to remove millions of tonnes of untreated sewage that enters the river every year have given a warm welcome to the news that the last remaining legal hurdle has been crossed with the rejections of the two outstanding judicial reviews lodged by objectors to the project.

Last week, at the Court of Appeal, the two remaining applications for a Judicial Review of the Development Consent Order process for the Thames Tideway Tunnel, were heard by Mr Justice Sales. The judge conclusively rejected the two applications by Mr Graham Stevens and a group called 'Thames Blue Green Economy' fronted by Lady Dido Berkley. There is now no legal route available for the applications to proceed further and construction on the long awaited project is expected to begin in 2017.

The Tideway Tunnel team, whilst obviously pleased with the decisions, made no public comment other to state in a message to local authorities:

"After a long and exhaustive process to reach this position, the project team can now focus 100 per cent on bringing the tunnel scheme to fruition. We look forward to continuing to work with you to achieve this."

However, representatives of the river and environmental groups that make up the Thames Tunnel Now coalition were more than happy to acknowledge the comprehensive rejection of the judicial reviews.

Debbie Leach, Chief Executive of the Waterways charity Thames 21 and chair of Thames Tunnel Now said:

"This is more great news for everyone who cares about having a cleaner Thames here in the heart of London. We all depend on the water in our rivers and need to protect it whenever we can – this project means that we can look forward to a River Thames we can be truly proud of, that we can use and enjoy safely and with confidence and where fish and wildlife can thrive.”

Gordon Scorer, Chief Executive of London Wildlife Trust added:

“The Courts have consistently made the right decisions for the River Thames and Londoners. We need a sewage system fit for the 21st century, a system that no longer fouls the Thames, damaging the river’s fragile ecosystem and threatening the health of all who use it.”

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The Thames Tideway Tunnel project has been designed to run 25km along the River Thames between Acton and Abbey Mills and intercept 34 combined sewer overflows.
It will divert surface water and sewage discharge to a wastewater treatment facility rather than allowing it to discharge directly into the river.
A failure to tackle the sewage overflow into Thames after periods of heavy or intense rainfall would leave UK facing EU fines of up to £100 million a year.
To help fund the construction of the super sewer, Thames Water has said that consumer water bills would increase by about £80 a year.


Thames Tunnel Now

In October 2011 a group of major environmental charities and amenity groups representing over 5 million people came together in a powerful coalition to support plans to construct the Thames Tideway Tunnel as the necessary and final part of infrastructure improvements needed to end the scandal of 39 million tonnes of untreated sewage entering the tidal river every year. Thames Tunnel Now partners include; RSPB, Angling Trust, Salmon & Trout Association, WWF, Thames21, The River Thames Society, Thames Anglers Conservancy, London Sustainability Exchange, Canoe England, Marine Conservation Society, Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust, Rowers Against Thames Sewage and the London Wildlife Trust.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:13 pm

Thames Tideway Tunnel: strategic and economic case, costs and benefits, 2015 update

A little light reading Shocked affraid

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/thames-tideway-tunnel-strategic-and-economic-case-costs-and-benefits-2015-update
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PostSubject: Construction of London's new £4.2bn 'super sewer' will start next year   Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:19 pm

Construction of London's new £4.2bn 'super sewer' will start next year following the confirmation of independent investors to finance and deliver the scheme.

Anglers, environmental groups and river users joined Ministers and business leaders in celebrating the news - recognising that the Thames Tideway Tunnel is needed urgently to tackle the issue of discharges of untreated sewage into the river and ensure the capital's sewerage system is fit for the 21st century. The tidal Thames is home to more than 120 species of fish, tens of thousands of which have perished in recent decades in periodic pollution incidents including the catastrophic 450,000 ton sewage overflow of June 2011 which affected West London and caused a major fish kill.

See: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13693265

On Monday, Bazalgette Tunnel Limited, a new special-purpose company appointed to take the project forward, received its licence from Ofwat as a new regulated utilities business, separate from Thames Water. At the same time, Thames Water announced a much lower than predicted cost of the project to customers. The company's current average household bill for water and wastewater of around £370 per year is now expected to remain at that level, before inflation, until at least 2020.

The Angling Trust has been working hard with local angling and environmental groups, including our colleagues in the Thames Angler's Conservancy, to press for the Tunnel to be built as soon as possible.

Mark Lloyd, Chief Executive of the Angling Trust said:
"Anglers have been at the forefront of the campaign for a cleaner river and an end to the fish kills that have blighted this great and improving tideway. As the national governing body for recreational fishing the Angling Trust was proud to a founder member of the Thames Tunnel Now coalition that pressed for the building of this much needed 'Supersewer' and we are delighted that is finally going ahead."

Martin Baggs, CEO of Thames Water, said:
"It's no exaggeration to say this is a truly momentous day for London and the River Thames. I want to thank everyone who has played a part in getting us this far. It's a historic achievement and I look forward to supporting Bazalgette Tunnel Limited in ensuring the project is delivered safely, on time and to budget. The strong competition for both construction and financing has driven down costs for our more than five million bill payers.

"Our current annual bills already include £7 for the tunnel and this will eventually rise to a total of £20 to £25, before inflation. This is sharply down from the original maximum estimate of £70 to £80 set four years ago. The really good news is that cheaper finance and other efficiencies mean that this hugely important piece of national infrastructure can be built while keeping our bills at or around their current level, before inflation, for at least the next five years."

Environment Secretary Elizabeth Truss said: "The Thames Tideway Tunnel will be a fantastic example of world leading British engineering at its best. It will also boost economic growth across the capital, generate more than 9,000 jobs and bring huge benefits to the natural environment by protecting the Thames from sewage.

"Today's announcement brings us one step closer to finally modernising London's ageing sewerage system. In the 21st century, the most dynamic city in the world should not have a river that is polluted by sewage every time there is heavy rainfall."

Andy Mitchell, CEO at 'Tideway', the delivery organisation for the Thames Tideway Tunnel, now owned by Bazalgette Tunnel Limited, added: "Our task over the next seven years is quite simply to make sure London has a sewerage system capable of meeting the capital's modern-day needs. Everyone in the team is excited and can't wait to get started.

"It's not just about cleaning up the river, important though that is. Nor is it just about building a tunnel. It's about making sure we transform the River Thames, making it central to the capital's wider social and economic well-being. This is a once in a generation opportunity and we are determined to raise the bar in every way, not least the way we treat local communities potentially most directly affected by construction works.

"Through our commitment to remove excavated materials by barge, the opportunity to rejuvenate the river as a transport artery will be a particular focus for us."

The Thames Tideway Tunnel will stem the flows from the 34 'combined sewer overflows' (CSOs) identified by the Environment Agency as the most polluting. The £4.2 billion project will connect up with the Lee Tunnel. This has already been constructed by Thames Water to take wastewater otherwise destined for the river to Beckton sewage works, East London, from early in 2016.

Along with Thames Water's recent expansion of the five sewage treatment works on the tidal Thames, the two tunnels will greatly reduce the 39 million tonnes of untreated sewage that currently overflow into the tidal River Thames via CSOs in a typical year.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:18 am

I was walking over Blackfriars Bridge over the weekend and there is now a
huge oil type drilling rig in place starting works on the Tideway Tunnel.I think
members of Thames Angling Conservancy should be proud of the support they
have given to this project,and one day maybe our children or their descendants
will see a much cleaner and improved river supporting more fish and marine life.
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