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PostSubject: floating boat platforms   Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:40 pm

right, heres one for all you legal begle no it alls,


do you need permission to build one of these on the Thames,










the location is the River Thames, were the M3 goes over the Thames at Chertsey, said club has built it,

have phone spelthonre council, awaiting reply,
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PostSubject: lost fishing   Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:01 pm

Very Happy thanks keith. that was one of my favourite swims.full of roach. i thought the free thames was all free to fish up to staines stone. as said in the magna carta.
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:52 pm

If that's legal we could just as well put fishing platforms in every available swim from Staines to the estuary with a sign "Thames Anglers Conservancy - private fishing platform - access for club members only"  Evil or Very Mad 

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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:58 pm

Ed Randall wrote:
If that's legal we could just as well put fishing platforms in every available swim from Staines to the estuary with a sign "Thames Anglers Conservancy - private fishing platform - access for club members only"  Evil or Very Mad 

Now THAT sounds like a plan.........  

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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:06 pm

Looks like an illegally moored boat to me.
You could fish from the grass next to it.
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:24 am

They are very pleased with it, see their facebook page https://www.facebook.com/surreycanoeclub

Presumably they don't own the land behind this platform - their club house is upstream of there at Laleham Park sports ground, right?
Just to pinpoint the exact location:

This is located a bit further down on the Middlesex bank adjacent to the M3 (at 1)?  
Or is it the Surrey bank on the downstream side of the M3 (at 2)?

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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:41 am

I have asked them directly on their facebook page,  expect it to kick off.

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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:56 am

its at location 1 Ed
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PostSubject: canoes   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:03 am

Crying or Very sad ed they have a lock up canoe building directly behind the pontoon.with double gates. and this is where all the guy was getting the canoes from. tight lines harry
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:41 am

Here is part of the answer:

https://www.gov.uk/apply-for-a-thames-accommodation-licence

"Overview
You need a River Thames accommodation licence to build, change or keep any structure:

on, in or over the river, eg jetty, boom, pontoon, piling
that cuts into the river bank, eg dock, slipway
It is valid until you move or change the structure.

You must display the accommodation licence plate on the structure.

There is an annual fee for the licence, which runs from 29 September each year.

Licences can’t be transferred. You must get a licence if you buy or live in a property with a structure.

Before you build a new structure or change an existing structure, contact the Environment Agency to discuss your plans."


Does the Surrey Canoe pontoon have an EA licence plate displayed? If not, it is defacto unlawful/illegal. Which presumably means it is classed as flotsam/debris, and you are perfectly entitled to fish off it, or, for that matter, cut it loose and take it down the dump.
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:58 am

spoke to EA, Carl Waters, he said a person called Julie Cottrell has all the paper work and all agreed, i am happy with with
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:19 am

Disappointing that the EA didn't consult before granting permission then.   
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:39 am

ref No reference number SEWT_SUR_2014_163.

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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:00 pm

consult who james?
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:35 pm

They would only consult I think if it requires planning, this looks like a temporary structure? Also looks like a nice spot to fish the evenings from  pirat 
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:43 am

I would have thought they'd put a notice up at leats asking if there are any substantial objections.

I don't particularly mind and there is plenty of room for all river users, I just don't like public access land going de facto private without anyone being asked.
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:32 pm

Wouldnt it be a real shame if that was to somehow flot off down the river !!!
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:45 pm

One exactly the same appeared outside a local canoe club about 2 months ago so maybe the BCU are intending to stick one outside every canoe training centre ,Stick an outboard on the back and you have the most stable fishing boat going  
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PostSubject: Re: floating boat platforms   Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:58 am

i think they have taken down your and mine comments Ed, and i never got a re-ply about it taking them them 20 odd minits to notice that they where parked up next to me when i waz fishing at pit 1 the meads for the last 2hrs, and i will be cheaking it this week to see it they have put the EA number plate on it yet, it not, pics will will taken put on EA face book page, telephones calls made, action will be taken, if the i are not dotted and the t's are not crossed, its illegal,
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