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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:14 pm

And a few pics from me and a day out on the boat, full web report to follow:

Thanks to EA fisheries team for getting TAC members involved.


Deploying the Seine net at the Battersea survey





Survey near to the Lots Road CSO, how big??



Schooly Bass



Flounder





Shrimp and Prawn in huge numbers



Never knew Smelt had a decent set of teeth



Smelt



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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:45 pm

David Harvey wrote:

Andy the bottom one is a Goby but looks different to upstream.

I'd put money on that not being a goby mate...if the EA said it was maybe they were in a rush?

You can't see its nose properly but you can just make out a snout (pogge). You can't see the dorsals up or the barbs underneath to confirm but the shape screams a pogge...so do the bands of colour.

Andy's 2nd down looks a Dover sole to me.....yum Wink
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:02 am

And if I'm not very much mistaken, that last one's a Trojan extra strong. They were giving them out in those brown envelopes full of gig fliers & the like the last time I went to Ministry of Sound.

Doesn't look like that one made it very far up stream.
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PostSubject: ea survey   Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:28 pm

we also caught a bass around 1.8lb-2lb perfect for a large plate however it went back. i have already looked at bass rods and multipliers. grays/thurrock is 20 mins away. the shore line is lot worse tham barnes, infact my waders got a clean up at barnes today. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:32 pm

Andy Banham wrote:
the shore line is lot worse tham barnes, infact my waders got a clean up at barnes today. Very Happy

Very Happy And that's saying something, Barnes can be horrible silt on that bend at times.
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:57 am

Slight change in date and time for the last few:


11/10 Denton (Ship & Lobster Pub) 11.30pm on site

12/10 Mucking (Stanford-le-Hope nature reserve TQ 704 812) All TBA
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:10 pm

A few tidal more pics from Andy Banham.








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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:15 pm

That bass is absolutely mint.

Ok - got a question chaps. We've seen bass just inches long get caught this weekend at Barnes and the EA have netted them at Richmond.

So does that mean we've got adult (potentially big) bass up our end of the tidal, or even on the semi tidal, coming to lay their eggs?
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:20 pm

no,dont think the big bass come far from the estuary?
i think eggs and fry get washed upriver with the tides?
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:03 pm

William Pettigrew wrote:
no,dont think the big bass come far from the estuary?
i think eggs and fry get washed upriver with the tides?

Washed upriver 62 miles, against the main flow of the river? I'm not so sure mate.....but then again, I don't know which is why I'm asking Smile
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:16 pm

Don't know about the eggs, but the bass (and flounder) fry swim up with the tide & hang around for a year or two(?) or at least til they're propper basslets, before heading back out to sea - according to one of the EA wallers at the tidal fish survey that I attended.

Estuaries in general (& the whole tideway IS effectively an estuary) are important nurseries for these fish, offering relatively plentiful food & few predators.

EDIT - Thinking about it, bass being an economically important fish, this behaviour must add further weight to the argument FOR the tideway tunnel, surely?
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PostSubject: ea survey   Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:54 pm

oi you lot stop thinking that bass would fit nicely on a plate lol!
top marks for david to put that up, i promise it went back. the EA guys and girls reckoned it was about 3 years old and almost old enough for spawning. if you want them straight down the embankment heading east, highway, limehouse link tunnel and then A13 to grays. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:00 pm

hi all just checked the bass profile on worldseafishing.com and the bass spawn in the estuary mouth and eggs and fry are washed inland by the tide. sorry all you that live in the far west no 4lb bass at richmond.
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:14 pm

I knew I'd seen this something about Bass venturing up as far as Teddington somewhere, just found it:-
EA Teddington Weir Seine Net 2nd September 1993
SpeciesNos
Common goby [Pomatoschistus microps] 36
Dace [Leuciscus leuciscus] 64
Roach [Rutilus rutilus] 24
Sea bass [Dicentrarchus labrax] 1
Gudgeon [Gobio gobio] 4
Perch [Perca fluviatilis] 2
Flounder [Platichthys flesus] 1
Total 132
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PostSubject: Re: EA Fish Survey Month   Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:30 am

Jeff Kennett tells a good story about sea fish he witnessed being caught miles upriver from anywhere previously known to produce sea fish Shocked

Flounders at Hampton Court is the furthest upriver I think most have heard of - this story beats that Smile

I'll let him tell you what and where...
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